POLL: How Do you Feel About the Election Results?

Let us know what you're thinking now that Election Day has come and gone.

Election day has come and gone.

of Salem's registered voters hit the polls and gathered at to hear the results.

What do you think about the events that unfolded?

Let us know in our poll and add your thoughts to the comments.

windpower November 09, 2011 at 10:22 PM
Well I would say shocking results .How Furey gets in is beyond me .As for Darek B he had a mini pack,and the city hall behind him with the goal to oust Pinto .To bad it backfired and Carr got in via an electronic call system to get the vote out .This is the new way to get out the vote .email facebook ect.face to face is gone . At least now I hope we don't have to watch madam Mayor do hissey fits when questioned or does not get her way . One other thing to note is the number of blank votes and writein for ward 1 council .Might just be a wake up call .
john November 09, 2011 at 10:40 PM
I came away from the debates feeling that Carr was another yes man to the mayors agenda. He seemed to answer questions with non-specific replies and he has been working with the mayor in the schools. Once again the transfer station shows that the supporters don't live near by and have total disregard for the quality of life for those who do.He also said that the windmill would look good and be a possible tourist attraction. WOW. I think the mayor will take Carr over pinto.
windpower November 09, 2011 at 11:11 PM
John There you go, you have it spot on ! Welcome to the new yes mam council .Watching the meetings will be better than a soap !
Jared Robinson November 09, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Well if you disagree with the mayor, tell your councilor. They're supposed to be voting your way. If they hear nothing, expect them to vote with the crowd or mayor.
William Legault November 09, 2011 at 11:44 PM
As a note here, because I think it just needs to be said. City Councilors are not elected to "vote your way." Your way not may not be the way of your neighbor, or even your brother. A city councilor is elected to make decisions, based on available information, that are best for the city first, and there ward second. If some running for office told me he would always vote "my way" I would mark him as a liar and a fool.
Jared Robinson November 09, 2011 at 11:57 PM
How was the Washington st annex good for the city? Councilors are expected to voice their constituencies way. Or at least educate their constituency as to why they voted that way. If that's not how it works, I don't think I want to live here anymore. The constant loss of a voice of the public is getting bad. Councilors really should be the first level of access for the citizens.
windpower November 09, 2011 at 11:59 PM
You are some what correct Will, but when it come to reelection we vote in response to how they respond to our needs .Jared /Will please look at my comment about blank votes and writeins
William Legault November 10, 2011 at 12:01 AM
Jared, I was not claiming any vote, made at any time, by any one councilor was good for the city. I was just making a statement as to how the council system (Plan B government) is supposed to work. Councilors with every vote they make, are expressing the desires of a constituency. At the same time, with the very same vote, they are going against the desires of a constituency. This is the nature of the beast.
Jared Robinson November 10, 2011 at 12:01 AM
I want to know who got write ins in ward 2
john November 10, 2011 at 12:18 AM
Let me make another point about the transfer station because it is obviously very important to me. Every councilor took one of two roads.A definate no or maybe if we can work out the concerns with NSC.The maybe response is basiclly saying you will vote for it based on my following opinion.The mayor and NSC will stop at nothing to get this deal done.They will put restrictions to satisfy the maybe's and the rest will be history. Just like the past ten years the mayor will turn her head and say we can't stop them without hurting ourselves as a city.The city strung it out and want to force it on the taxpayers. How can any councilor support a garbage station in the middle of historic Salem. Look around these types of facilities are never put in the middle of residential/business locations.Is it good for the city check book? Yes. Does that make it right? No.Best for the city over ward on every issue? No way.
john November 10, 2011 at 12:28 AM
Just curious, why? Is that Sosnowski's ward?
KlassySalem November 10, 2011 at 03:03 PM
Ronan blocked her during discussion of the budget, a meeting that she was specifically invited to participate in. Yes, Pinto blocked her on the lease.
KlassySalem November 10, 2011 at 03:05 PM
There were actually more blanks and write-ins for ward 2 councilor, than ward 1.
KlassySalem November 10, 2011 at 03:07 PM
Well said. I would say Lovely is my favorite, yet I disagree with her much more than several others. On the other hand, I really trust her judgment.
Jared Robinson November 10, 2011 at 03:21 PM
Yes. It's his ward (and mine) I just wanted to see who people put in. Sometimes the write ins are funny. I'd love to see how many votes Big Metal Box got.
Jared Robinson November 10, 2011 at 03:22 PM
I think my wife voted for Big Metal Box for Ward 2...
Jared Robinson November 10, 2011 at 03:24 PM
fair enough, but I think it should be allowed to be voted on by the council to let her speak. one objector shutting down a dialog is draconian.
john November 10, 2011 at 05:03 PM
The mayor had more than enough time to talk on the budget but she kept saying the same thing.
Edward November 12, 2011 at 01:08 AM
Although I did not know Mr. Ronan also used the same rule, I believe it -was- the reason why both lost. Perhaps the incoming City Council should revisit this rule and revise it accordingly? Regarding Ward 3, it was LONG overdue. I'm glad he lost.
Jared Robinson November 12, 2011 at 01:13 AM
I would say it should at LEAST have to be seconded by another member of the council. or be voted on quickly to veto someone speaking
Edward November 12, 2011 at 01:16 AM
Just by showing a lot of blanks in a ward, especially when the incumbent is running unopposed, should send some sort of message to that person.
Edward November 12, 2011 at 01:17 AM
Regarding the transfer station, that could also be the reason why Pelletier lost.
Jared Robinson November 12, 2011 at 01:19 AM
excuse my ignorance on this issue, but why is making the existing dump a better dump a bad thing?
Edward November 12, 2011 at 01:29 AM
My understanding is Pelletier was in favor (in some way) of the current operation over there being transformed into that new large transfer station Northside was proposing. But I heard a lot of the residents who live at the condos on the hill above Swampscott Road (the ones located behind Home Depot) were against the project and they probably voted for Siegel as a result. The current operation is an eyesore, I don't think anyone would disagree. What Northside is proposing, was probably the best proposal they could come up, with to "clean up" that place and make it better, without it looking like an even worse eyesore. Swampscott Road already has enough problems with traffic as it is. Every afternoon, there are cars trying to take a left turn onto Swampscott Road from Highland Avenue, only to be blocked because the cars coming up the other side of Highland Avenue end up being stuck in the middle of the intersection when the light changes from green to yellow (so they don't have to wait while it's red). Obviously, quite a large number of drivers do not know that it is illegal to block an intersection.
Stephanie Hagyard November 12, 2011 at 12:41 PM
I did this poll- was not totally satisfied but I did vote. Some of the people I voted for won and some didn't. One person in particular put on a great campaign (IMO) and lost. But I got out there and voted. What made me "unsatisfied" is that I was one of 21% who did so. I think that is sad.
john November 12, 2011 at 05:16 PM
The transfer station is not a dump. Currently construction debris and yard waste are taken in and transfered out in larger trucks. The new proposal calls for the same type of operation on a much larger scale. The biggest difference being that they will be taking in garbage(household waste) from all over the area.Much more traffic on top of odor issues. For every couple of loads that come in another truck goes out.Highland Ave will be a garbage truck highway.
Jared Robinson November 13, 2011 at 12:08 AM
may I ask if you've lived there since before it was a transfer station? Did you live there when it was an active incinerator? I really don't see traffic as being too much of an issue on that part of 107... there's a dedicated left turn only and right turn only lane going onto Swampscott Road. The current transfer station locale is directly behind the Home Depot The only houses in that area are the condos up on the hill. My god parents lived there for years and I never smelled anything or had any problems getting to their house. And this was back when Caldor was still around... Not to mention, isn't there a giant quarry on that street with trucks going in and out already?
Edward November 13, 2011 at 03:22 PM
If this was directed to me, yes. Where I live, I remember as a child when it was an active incinerator. I believe it was around 1970 that it ceased being an incinerator. The entrance to Aggregate Industries (former Lynn Sand and Stone) is further down Swampscott Road and I believe their property extends into Swampscott. Traffic IS an issue on that part of 107. When the traffic trying to take a left turn onto Marlborough Road, is backed up through the lights at Swampscott Road -and- further back, sometimes half way, sometimes all the way, to the lights at Barnes Road, it's an issue. Occasionally, I have seen this traffic backed up even further to Olde Village Way. Supposedly the lights at Marlborough Road and Swampscott Road were synchronized last year, but the volume of traffic appears to have made the synchronization, moot, because it hasn't done anything to fix the mess. This starts usually around 6:45 in the morning until the end of "rush hour" (Interesting that they call it "rush hour" when nothing moves...) and again in the afternoon from roughly 2:30 PM onward until the end of the "afternoon rush hour", usually around 6:00 PM or so.
Jared Robinson November 13, 2011 at 03:41 PM
who is actually going down Swampscott road for residential purposes? I never go down that road unless I'm going to the transfer station
john November 13, 2011 at 05:22 PM
If you were on Highland Ave and wanted to go to either Swampscott or Marblehead you would go down Swampscott road. I don't think the station was open at all when Caldor was here. If you are not seeing the traffic you are not using Highland Ave at peak times.The amount of residential traffic using that road is hugh and growing all the time. I have lived off Highland for over 30 years and I am sure of my facts.


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