YOUR CALL: Would You Call the Cops on This Salem Willows Visitor?

So we're not exactly John Quinones on 'What Would You Do?,' but an interesting police call came in over the weekend, and we want to know what you would have done in that situation.

On Saturday at 4:58 p.m., the Salem Police, route: {:controller=>"listings", :action=>"show", :id=>"city-of-salem-police-department"} --> received a call from a person concerned about a young girl who was being yelled at on Restaurant Row in the

Jack Carver September 19, 2012 at 10:02 AM
" they were not able to locate" There is your answer, the new battle cry.
adrienne September 19, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Mothers screaming profanities at their kids has become somewhat 'socially acceptable'. I see it everywhere!! MYOB & keep on walking.
heather amodeo September 19, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Depends, i agree its not appropriate for anyone especially a mother to be yelling at their child in that way but if she is not putting her hands on him then there is nothing to be done by police. As a mother myself i probably would have said something to her.
christine September 19, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Confront the mother and remind her there are people who do not want to hear profanities and tell her consequence works much better then yelling when it comes to disciplining children!
Nichole Jackson September 19, 2012 at 12:01 PM
Myob...the child was most likely acting up! If most parents did this to their children we would have less delinquents running around...BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO THAT MOM.
Kim September 19, 2012 at 12:19 PM
I disagree that "screaming profanities" has become socially acceptable. Maybe in some groups of people (others who do the same thing) but not to socially adept, compassionate parents. Go ahead and attempt to attack my comment, because frankly it won't phase me one bit. "Screaming" at a child at any time is wrong. Done in public is most likely humiliating to the child, which a caring parent would never want to do. "Scolding" a child in public is a lot different than yelling and screaming. Especially when combined with profanity. That belittles a child. Never - ever - acceptable. Period. Profanity in public is wrong. It is not socially acceptable (except to those who swear in public - because they don't care about anyone besides themselves - and they are the ones who think it's socially acceptable.) I swear in private when I stub my toe, get cut off by a bad driver etc. I havw sworn at my children in my home, in anger, and within the hour was sitting on their beds discussing the fact that I was wrong to react in such a way. I apologize to my kids when I react badly. They learn from that just as much as they learn from the way their parents humiliate, swear, scream...in public or at any time. This child needs a different role model. And if you think it's ok to behave this way, I'm talking to YOU. Signed, A mom who is not perfect, but does not humiliate or verbally abuse her children.
Kim September 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM
....and my answer is "D". It would depend.
Rose S. September 19, 2012 at 12:26 PM
As a mom, I've had to scold loudly at my child and depending on the level of frustration with said child, my language may very well have hit the gutter. Not that I'm proud of it but give me a break, we (PARENTS) are human beings too. I would not have called the cops, unless I saw a child being hurt, and I would've given the mom a 'been there' sympathetic look rather than judge and condem her.
KlassySalem September 19, 2012 at 12:37 PM
D. Was she disciplining the child, or abusing/terrorizing the child? You know it when you see it. If the latter, I'd confront her. I've done it before. If not, myob.
Kim September 19, 2012 at 12:41 PM
In my mind, there is a difference between "scolding loudly" and "screaming profanities". I am referring to profanities and screaming. Yes, parents are human and have free will. Many use that free will to refrain from or re-train themselves to behave better than the child. I honest to God heard a woman say to her child (a kid with a bad attitude frankly...disrespectful, rude, cursing to his mom (in line at a store) the mom responded with "Don't you F_#@%ing use that language with me!" Yep. I judged (in my own head). I said nothing. I felt pity for both of them. Kids learn what they are taught. My kids are nuts :)
jeff September 19, 2012 at 01:11 PM
I'd tell her that Ghetto Language is against the bylaws of Salem Willows. :-) That child has no chance...Sad...
tina l cook September 19, 2012 at 02:43 PM
Yes. I agree with you as well. Well Said!!!
Thomas Vallor September 19, 2012 at 02:57 PM
Precisely. Children learn from example. This child has just learned it's socially acceptable to be rude and freak out in public.
Erin Cyr September 19, 2012 at 03:03 PM
Sometimes moms are at the end of their rope with kids. Depending on the level or cruelty I might offer to help the mom, maybe just to clear off her table or talk to her kid for a minute while she went and had a cigarette, whatever. Sometimes it's the little things. Kindness can go a long way. As a mom I hate to see kids being mistreated, but I can't fix everything. A mom might balk at the offer of help, but done in the right way it might ease a really tough day.
Katrina Blair September 19, 2012 at 05:39 PM
Why can't people be human and treat thier kids nicely. Big deal she made a mistake there is no need to yell swear and do all that. Sounds to me that Mom needs help of her own and maybe don't need to have her kids till she learns how to like a human. People need to stop swearing and yelling time to bring back morals in our lives. I'm tired of kids being miss treated that is what is wrong with our kids today they need love not some beast yelling at them and mistreating them.....
Katrina Blair September 19, 2012 at 05:41 PM
By the way I'd call the cops and maybe if it was bad enough step in and help the child. Being a transit driver I see all kinds of people and have stopped child abuse, child sexual abuse on the bus and even having a grown up trying to set my bus on fire. I've seen all kinds and delt with them too....
K September 19, 2012 at 06:01 PM
It's depends. Unless you saw the situation from the beginning, you don't know what happened. No, no parent should be yelling at their child. But you as a bystander have no right to tell a parent how to parent THEIR child. If this mother was BEATING her child in public, yes I would certainly call the cops. But if she's yelling at her child (even inappropriately) I am not going to waste the cops time to drive all the way down to the Willows for nothing. I'm a parent of a 2 year old and unfortunately I do lose my cool and yell (not swear) at my child. When you have a child who will not listen to you and it throwing objects at your head repeatedly, it is hard to handle as a CALM human being. It is HUMAN to have emotions (besides happiness) and to have a negative reaction to a negative situation.
Bill September 19, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Do nothing. It's the mother's choice to parent her child as she pleases. Not my problema, though I am sure I am supporting both of them in some way
MShribman September 19, 2012 at 06:19 PM
Yelling obscenities in public is creating a disturbance. Of course, it is important to discipline a child, (too many are not disciplined), but this is not the way to do it. Take away privileges and things...No TV, or social networking for a week.
Danielle September 19, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Ok, I'm not GOING TO, but right at this very MOMENT, I'd like to yell a few obscenities at my 18 month old, who just refreshed my page, deleting my very long-winded comment before I could post it. The rest of you can give her your thanks later. Bottom line. Loud Public Profanity- unattractive, but not always out of line (ex. Fenway, playoffs, bottom of the 10th, strike 3) Other than that, wicked UN-classy Loud Profanity blurted out by a frazzled mother in a moment of weakness = Mulligan. And maybe a much-needed time out and some understanding. (ps- been there, done that. Not judging anyone..) Loud Public Profanity and humiliation regularly used as discipline (YES, you can tell the difference, and I would be JUST FINE with confronting them in public.)
David Sanderson September 19, 2012 at 11:40 PM
This mother should be embarrassed and ashamed!! NEVER ACCEPTABLE. I would have confronted the mother! David
Becky M. September 20, 2012 at 04:05 PM
Yelling/screaming in public is indeed a public disturbance, but adding profanities while yelling/screaming a child regardless of where it's taking place is not good in my opinion. Yes, people are all human and have limits, but if the child is very young they are much more impressionable with the way they're treated and will in turn treat others with as much disrespect as they're given. Would I have called the cops? No - not unless I saw physical abuse, though if the parent was really nasty to the child that is definitely verbal abuse and should not be allowed. What the parent decides to do in their own home is one thing, but why should the rest of us be forced to listen to and witness that kind of behavior?


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