What Should the City Do About Bangkok Paradise?

The business was in the news this weekend — what are your thoughts on the issue?

The Salem Police reported a stabbing and a 50-person unruly group in front of Bangkok Paradise on Sunday (Read about the situation here).

This morning, contributor William Legault shared his thoughts on the situation, including how he believes the city should handle it (What did Bil have to say?).

Now, we want to hear from you — What should the city do about Bangkok Paradise? Do you see similar issues in other parts of the city?

Let us know in the comments.

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SouthSalemCruiser October 01, 2012 at 12:15 PM
The city should investigate and take legal action if warrented based on the findings of the investigation. If no laws were broken, speak to the owners about how to handle situations like this in the future, including retraining bar staff to cut off patrions before they've had too much.
JOHN CAHILL October 01, 2012 at 12:36 PM
put a police man or woman there when they are open
William Warren October 01, 2012 at 12:36 PM
While I don't frequent the Bangkok Paradise, I did go in there once for Darq with a friend and had a pleasant time. I agree with the previous commenter that the staff might need to be retrained on certain aspects of the business. There have always been and always will be the occasional fights at bars but I think that if their staff works hard to control some factors that might lead to fights then they could provide a nice presence in town.
JOHN CAHILL October 01, 2012 at 12:44 PM
the people that want to fight make them join the military then they can fight
Restless October 01, 2012 at 01:30 PM
And charge them for it.....
Lisa Dolloff October 01, 2012 at 01:52 PM
I don't know if I can survive losing Bangkok's Tofu Crazy Noodles again. That's my only opinion on this matter.
Carolyn Costain October 01, 2012 at 02:06 PM
I don't agree with John Cahill because our military don't want a bunch of drunks either. Its usually the bar hoppers that start trouble in bars. They stop getting served at one bar and just move on to the next one "that will serve them." If bouncers can not recognize someones drunk before entering, than maybe having a breathalyzer at the door should be set up after a certain hour of the night. If a bar serves a person that comes into their bar drunk, they are now responsible for that drunk and can be sued if something happens to that drunk person, in their place of business. A bar that has more than 2 complaints a month should be required to hire a detail officer from 10pm til closing. Its nice to have businesses but our city is getting a real bad reputation that can hurt our city's other businesses of tourism.
Shava Nerad October 01, 2012 at 05:52 PM
No one here knows why the fight broke out. Was it over a woman? An insult? A challenge between two excitable young men (or even not young men?)? Most bar fights like this are between "usual suspects" who are at their usual weekend haunt. Could be strangers, but I bet not. I walked by the place on my way home from the train the other weekend. It was closing time for a lot of the bars around the time of the last train. A lot of milling, drunk and not very orderly folks in front of most bars in town. No one seemed thrilled to go home, and I was frightened at the thought that some of these idiots were probably driving there. Quite the puritan town we are, at that hour, eh? It's not just one bar - it's just this bar where knives got drawn, this time. The other bars, the metal that gets drawn on us is on strangers - randomly - by the ton at high speed. Maybe police or the bartenders should check pockets for car keys more than knives. I'm sure we lose more blood yearly to that. A stabbing may sound sensational, but it's trivial compared to the damage one drunk can do behind the wheel.
Witch and let Witch October 01, 2012 at 06:25 PM
The city needs to formally investigate, and, if necessary, take punitive measure against Bangkok. While a street fight is not really a business's responsibility, a certain level of negligence warrants punitive measures. I read the blotter and I see a lot of busy bodies clutching the pearls over a drunk stumbling home or a guy on the common with a metal detector. I also see a lot of manhole-guarding by the fuzz (I believe there are 91 uniformed officers in SalemPD). Police and citizens alike should care more about property crime, violent crime, and city ordinances and less about regulating individuals non-criminal behaviors. Don't get me wrong, I like and appreciate the police force. How much blood is spilled by drunk drivers? How much of our precious tourism dollars come from bars and restaurants? Nothing is free, and I personally am willing to tolerate the risk factors associated with these types establishments, within reason (street fights and stabbings are not within reason; the occassional bar fight is).
Justin Mattera October 01, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Well said
john October 01, 2012 at 09:47 PM
I think a simple solution is to force places with a history of trouble to hire a police officer to work at the door. To those who think that SPD are not doing their best,think again.Police respond to situations and take control. This problem comes to the licensing board which is chaired by the former police chief,St.Pierre,and I think we will see a very strong reaction from that board.
R Lim October 16, 2012 at 06:50 AM
Bangkok today got their entertainment license revoked for six months (one day BEFORE their scheduled hearing). We had some amazing DJs scheduled to play in Salem this month. Certainly the biggest acts in nightlife Salem has ever hosted. Its sad that Salem can't be a par of this. I always saw Salem as a great place for business, but its clear to me now that although Salem is a great location the city doesn't have what it takes to support its nightlife. This is ultimately going to hurt business... not help it. Way to go SPD! You burned your witch!
JOHN CAHILL October 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM


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