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Stabbing/50-Person Chaos Reported in Front of Bangkok Paradise

The Salem Police dealt with three different incident involving Bangkok Paradise early Saturday.

Police say they handled several incidents, including a stabbing, that occurred as the result of chaos in front of Bangkok Paradise early Saturday.

A 12:56 a.m., police said officers came upon "a large, unruly group" with "approximately 50 people engaged in a fight or running to/from those fighting, directly in front of Bangkok Paradise."

Police said the group began to disperse as police arrived, and other Salem units responded to help disperse the large, disorderly group.

"The bouncers employed by Bangkok Paradise were either ineffective in (or unwilling to attempt) dispersing their patrons," police said.

Within 15 minutes, police said other calls, which stemmed from the incident, were reported.

At 1:01 a.m., a possible fight was reported at the Church Street/Federal Street parking lot. Police said there wasn't a fight, but a large group with approximately 20 people was in the process of being dispersed. One man was taken into protective custody and later arrested on warrants, according to police.

Then, at 1:10 a.m., police said they responded to the emergency room at North Shore Medical Center on a report a person walked in with a stab wound. On arrival, police said they were "informed that a fight had broken out in front of Bangkok Paradise, and a man had been stabled."

The Criminal Investigation Unit was notified.

Police said the detective sergeant who is the investigator of the Licensing Board was notified.

Shava Nerad September 30, 2012 at 05:47 PM
Actually, people like this statistically rarely hurt anyone outside their own social circles, which is the dirty little secret behind the police tolerance. It's tribal. It looks bad, and there is occasional collateral damage, but ultimately, the usual social decision is that as long as they are only hurting one another and not the 1% or property, intervention is unnecessary. This is why you find this kind of thing in every city in every nation of the world pretty much unless the communities of the poor have churches and NGOs/nonprofits/community groups strong enough to hold their own together, as "internal affairs." If the SPD tried to enforce order the oppressive force necessary would take so many people and cost so much in blood and treasure - it would turn into a small war. We need those strong community groups. I'm relatively new here, but maybe some of you have an idea what groups those are and how they could be helped?
Justin Mattera September 30, 2012 at 05:52 PM
I am not faulting the SPD at all, they are there to do their job (and they did), it is the job of club/bar security and bouncers to keep the peace until the SPD arrive. Clearly this establishment did not provide adequate security and in turn someone was stabbed. If someone was walking on the sidewalk that night, just headed home and happened to be caught in this crowd, its a real possibility they could have been hurt. It's apparent this ownership (if its the same as casa blanca) should not be able to run this type of business in the city. This is just my opinion.
Tom Uellner September 30, 2012 at 05:56 PM
Unless the police are already at the business, how are they going to know that there is a huge crowd hanging out in front? The management on the other hand should have seen that and sent the bouncers out to start disbursing the crowd before it got to this point. Seems like the management doesn't care as long as the troublemakers are leaving their dollars on the bar.
advina quien September 30, 2012 at 06:35 PM
Oh Bill.... I I am in awe of your racist comments however it is motivator for us as the 47 percent to open up the classiest establishment ever.
David Pelletier September 30, 2012 at 06:51 PM
Sounds like the joint was hopping!
jeanmartin September 30, 2012 at 07:01 PM
Love the way this was reported. If this happened in the Point it would have been address as a riot or an all out gang war. Not an"unruly group".
Jack Carver September 30, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Kind of hard to comment, lot of facts are missing. Was it locals, out of town people or College kids? I will wait to have the answers before I comment on the 50-Person Chaos and the man who was stabled. One thing for sure Chaos like this across from the Mayor office will not go unpunished.
Justin Mattera September 30, 2012 at 08:11 PM
I agree with comment across from the mayors office, but does it really matter if it was locals, tourists or college kids? This same type of behavior has followed these owners from Lafayette Street to Washington Street. Enough is enough. Salem does not need a place where people get stabbed, that's the bottom line.
tina l cook September 30, 2012 at 08:18 PM
good one!!!
gene September 30, 2012 at 09:31 PM
Considering their track record, I believe you are right about the management of this restaurant.
Jen September 30, 2012 at 09:37 PM
Some super trashy girl from Rhode Island almost hit me with her car and then honked, flipped me off and then rolled down her window and started screaming at me yesterday. The crazy people that are attracted to Salem this time of year is def bad news for locals.
Chatsworth Osborne III October 01, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Isn't this the same place where last spring some guy and his friend both got drunk and then fought each other on Bridge Street on their way home?
Roberta Conners October 01, 2012 at 12:30 AM
How do we live in peace if we continue to elect these democrats that in courage minorities to live in our community that is getting worse? Thanks Kim Driscoll!
Alex S. October 01, 2012 at 01:28 AM
I live on Lynde Street, near the Y, and i can say that this is the second or third weekend in the past two months that have had HUGE fights going on the parking lot in the wee hours of Friday/Saturday/Sunday mornings. It always seems to be the same shite. People screaming about being "disrespected," someone else screaming that they saw someone with a guy/someone was shot/they will shoot/stab someone (take your pick, I've heard it all) and just straight up yelling and screaming and honking to the point that it does get a little scary. I stood on my porch this past Friday/Saturday morning (it was about 1am I believe) and watched a mass of people yelling at each other, blocking each other into spots with their cars, and overall just causing complete chaos. I understand that it's a weekend and that people get a little nuts, especially this time of year, but there's no excuse for this to be happening as often as I've witnessed and over what appears to be silly, silly stuff. And, I will note, that there was definitely no police detail int he parking lot while this was going on, not sure if they showed up after everyone disbursed, but for a good twenty minutes it was just a complete yelling madhouse (i've also never heard the phrase "yo" uttered so many times in one place.
Justin Mattera October 01, 2012 at 01:47 AM
Alex, you should be telling this story to the licensing board meetings. A little noise is one thing, what you have described is another. Call city hall for the next meeting, it's held right down the street from you.
Alex S. October 01, 2012 at 01:56 AM
thanks, Justin. I will look into this. I work full time and am in grad school full time so I may not be able to make a meeting, but perhaps I can pen a letter...not sure if it will be helpful or will fall on deaf ears but I certainly would have no problem vouching for the activity i witness on a weekly basis.
Alex S. October 01, 2012 at 02:04 AM
also...since I really have no proof that these fights i've witnessed involved people who may or may not have been at Bangkok Paradies beforehand...do I really want to relay my experience(s) to a licensing board or is there something else more appropriate?
Justin Mattera October 01, 2012 at 02:20 AM
I would start by approaching the owners with your concerns, from there if nothing is done, I would contact the police when a situation becomes intolerable (appears you've had this situation a few times already). If the problem still continues (apparently its a pattern with these owners) then a letter or an appearance at a board meeting would be the right thing.
john October 01, 2012 at 02:25 AM
Wake up people. This is the third brawl in Salem in 2 weeks and Halloween is around the corner. Two have been down the point and this one downtown.Salem is on the fast track to hell in a hand basket.
jason wert October 01, 2012 at 02:39 AM
Sounds like this place is in reading pa! This place should be shut down, there is no room for this garbage in salem! This is xactly the kind of garbage that is destroying my neighborhood & communities everywhere. Sad to see this going on
jason wert October 01, 2012 at 02:40 AM
Sounds like this place is in reading pa! This place should be shut down, there is no room for this garbage in salem! This is xactly the kind of garbage that is destroying my neighborhood & communities everywhere. Sad to see this happening there
adrienne October 01, 2012 at 09:32 AM
i work in the catering industry & live in the Derby Wharf neighborhood. there isn't a Friday or Saturday night that goes by when there isn't a large mob of people out in the street in front of Murphy's. pushing, shoving, screaming, yelling, scantily clad young women falling off their high-heels, meatheads walking right in front of my car, general mayhem & disorderly conduct. oh, joy! i can hardly wait for the carnival to come to town. NOT!
Tracey Mitchell October 01, 2012 at 12:21 PM
think the word you mean is "encourage" might want to use spell check if you can't spell, just shows your ignorance
PJ October 01, 2012 at 01:56 PM
When we had this problem a couple of years ago (in the fall again when more college students around) the Town House Square establishments (Rockafella's, ONeills, Fresh Taste of Asia, etc) all enacted a Zero Tolerance policy for letting people in the place. Not sure how that system worked, but if you were "in the system" for any related infraction-- you were not admitted entrance. ID's scanned on the Thr-Sat night peak window. Bangkok's owners need to step up and pay what it costs to join this program. It has been effective for others.
KlassySalem October 01, 2012 at 02:04 PM
Youtube can be your friend. Post it up!
Bill October 01, 2012 at 02:59 PM
Dependency and entitlement cuts across all races and creeds. It is inclusive
Bill October 01, 2012 at 03:03 PM
Maybe it was a meeting for Obama for America that got out of hand.
Kevin Branagan October 01, 2012 at 04:09 PM
What portion of the 47% were involved in the stabbing? Was it active duty Army personnel in Afghanistan? Was it the elderly?
Bill October 01, 2012 at 05:44 PM
Perhaps the illegal aliens, welfare/ebt kings and queens. Drug addicts, ex cons, layabouts etc. Probably more likely than the elderly.
R Lim October 16, 2012 at 06:36 AM
Bangkok today got their entertainment license revoked for six months (one day BEFORE their scheduled hearing). We had some amazing DJs scheduled to play in Salem this month. Certainly the biggest acts in nightlife Salem has ever hosted. Its sad that Salem can't be a par of this. I always saw Salem as a great place for business, but its clear to me now that although Salem is a great location the city doesn't have what it takes to support its nightlife. This is ultimately going to hurt business... not help it. Way to go SPD! You burned your witch!

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