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Edward Carroll: Make Plant a Hotel/Casino

Candidate for the Second Essex District Senate spot shares his plans for the Salem Harbor Power Station site.

The following was submitted by .

I am a candidate for the office of State Senator for the Second Essex District (i.e., Salem, Peabody, Danvers, Beverly, and Topsfield). I am running because I would like to see an increase in employment in the Second Essex District and I would like to see the residential property tax reduced or eliminated.

Therefore, if I am elected, my proposal for the eyesore that is the present in Salem would be to replace it with a casino/hotel complex.

The site is a 65-acre parcel of waterfront land, which is sufficient space for a casino complex. The Salem harbor is a deep water harbor. Instead of unsightly coal ships, I envision international cruise ships entering and docking at our port.

We already have a ferry service from Salem to Boston that would bring tourists from the Boston hotels.

Restaurants and shopping areas throughout the district will be thriving from the overflow of people from the casino complex. This would truly be what Mayor Driscroll calls our Rt. 128. In fact, I would call it our highway to financial prosperity.

At one time Salem was the leading seaport on the East Coast and brought tremendous financial revenues through the international trade. At present, this district is rich in tourists dollars due to its water access, and Salem could easily become, once again, the crown jewel. Salem has easy access because of the trains, water ferries, buses, private yachts, and can even accommodate cruise ships. A casino complex would thrive due to our unique deep-water harbor.

However, I would have two conditions to the project. First, I would demand that all employment be preferential to citizens from the district, and secondly, I would demand that for every dollar coming into the complex, a penny must be put into a district pool to lower residential property taxes.

Just think of the possibilities for our district, with increased tourism, high
employment, and low residential property taxes.

Edward Carroll

Salem

Bryan Karsis July 24, 2012 at 03:59 PM
What a terrible, terrible idea. On a list of Bad Ideas for the Power Plant Site Reuse, ranked from "Not so good" to "Seriously, why do you hate Salem so much?", I would rank "Casino & Hotel" right after "Another Coal Plant".
Mike Lash July 24, 2012 at 04:21 PM
Lost my vote.
James R. Willis Jr. July 24, 2012 at 04:33 PM
This editorial is so far off-base I'm not going to take it seriously enough to point out its flaws.
KlassySalem July 24, 2012 at 04:57 PM
I think this whole piece can be summed up this way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0HoP4kABeo
kathy July 24, 2012 at 05:01 PM
Mr. Carroll you do realize all these ships/boats would only run in the summer? Are these part time jobs? Did you go to the fireworks on the fourth? Total gridlock on Derby,Essex,Bridge,and Webb. There is a playground across the street from this site would you want your children there with increased traffic? You would also need late night/ early morning transportation from Boston. The ferry does not run that late and not sure neighbors would want it to. Don't want to hear horns at 2am. This type of shallow thinking is very scary from someone who says he wants to be responsible for making decisions for north shore.
Jared Robinson July 24, 2012 at 05:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_wc9JvTXGc&feature=player_detailpage#t=47s
Michael Berry July 24, 2012 at 06:48 PM
We let the college expand without improving the transportation infrastructure (roads, traffic patterns, pedestrian traffic). During the regular school year, the traffic near the college is horrendous. I work on the south shore and used to dread the expressway. Now I dread coming into south Salem. There is no way in hell that the trans infrastructure could be improved upon enough to make this idea work. Like a previous person mentioned, there are three roads heading towards the Willows; Derby, Essex and Webb. None of these have the capacity, or the potential capacity, for what a project Like Mr. Carroll proposes. NO CASINO in the Willows.
Janet Marino-Johnson July 24, 2012 at 08:21 PM
I salute Ed Carroll for coming up with an idea that has some merit and should be really examined. It may not be perfect, but unlike Joan "Tax and Spend" Lovely, at least Carroll puts forward an idea that centers on generating revenue for the area, rather than increasing water,sewer, parking fees and fines--not to mention the totally ridiculous Internet Sales Tax-approved July 2 with Lovely casting the deciding vote! As a fellow senior citizen and the only non lawyer in the race, I will be voting for Ed Carroll and urge others to do the same. I'd also like to call out Lovely campaigner/poster/water carrier Klassy here! Please explain how your heroes Internet Sales Tax helps folks in a terrible economy? Salem has the distinction of being the ONLY city/town in the country to pass such a stupid anti-business anti-consumer law!
Evan Weinberg July 24, 2012 at 08:33 PM
It may not be perfect, but at least Carroll comes up with an idea to raise money, instead of tax us to death like phony Joanie Lovely. I too like the idea of a non-lawyer, senior citizen and outsider. I am voting for Carroll--he can win this race--its a such a weak field!
KlassySalem July 24, 2012 at 08:41 PM
My hero? I have NO heroes in politics. As for the silly internet sales tax resolution the city council passed, I vocally opposed it. The only merit to it is that it was a meaningless resolution that doesn't actually impose anything, and was an utter waste of time. So it doesn't actually hurt or help anyone in a terrible economy. Only the state can enact such legislation. Several states have enacted such legislation. You should probably do a little research before you post.
Evan Weinberg July 24, 2012 at 08:51 PM
Hey Klassy,I think the person that should have done the research on the ability of a city or town to impose an Internet Sales Tax is your good friend Joan"Tax and Spend" Lovley.She is such a dimwit, she had no idea that cities and towns cant impose a sales tax on their own. Only by a home rule pettion vote by the legislature can it be imposed, and youll be happy to know those stiffs are considering it. You are also wrong on something else. No other cities or towns in the country have imposed an internet sales tax--only those wonderful hacks from the salem city council that you support.
KlassySalem July 24, 2012 at 09:14 PM
Um, that's what I just said. One correction. Salem hasn't imposed an internet sales tax, either.
KlassySalem July 24, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Also, Jan, darling, it's a little "kooky" that on Salem Patch you're voting for Ed Carroll, but on Peabody Patch you're supporting Manning. What gives there?
Keep Salem Trashy! July 24, 2012 at 11:13 PM
I would hate to have my current excellent view of the power plant blighted with new a mixed use waterfront development. Also isn't the traffic and large number successful people in prosperous urban areas just disgusting. I love being able to cruise by- at record speed- the empty and dilapidated storefronts in decaying urban areas....mind you I do not enjoy peace and quit enough to move to a small rural suburb. I would much rather live in a city and complain online about any proposals to grow and be vibrant. to the above who said casinos attract the wrong element I totally agree - honestly Todd English's Pizzas aren't even round- that knucklehead shows up to put his weird misshapen gumba food where ever one pops up- does no one realize this? KEEP SALEM TRASHY!!!! WOOT WOOT!
Keep Salem Trashy! July 24, 2012 at 11:41 PM
Also totally agree with this - the redevelopment of brownfield that exist on otherwise extremely valuable waterfront property is ridiculous. Especially when the federal and state government have programs set aside specifically for that purpose-who needs their handouts! Furthermore, anyone with half a brain would chose to work in a toxic power plant rather work in the hospitality industry: Coal plant worker vs Chef -no contest I'm going with coal plant worker! And its not like we could reasonably replace the energy generated there with another source...Oh we could? with wind? Well, whatever.
john July 24, 2012 at 11:44 PM
How about gas?
SamestinkingSalem July 25, 2012 at 01:10 AM
The last thing I want next to my home is a high-end resort. A toxic water front power plant has worked out perfectly fine for me, thank you. Also, I commute weekdays at 8:00 a.m. I don’t need no casino traffic messing around with that early morning endeavor. And as for the evening traffic getting home, well . . . you do know what happened to Monaco, don’t you? Sure, I love the waterfront harbor, but not enough to make a change that razzle-dazzles the harbor, - when we could continue to keep on chugging the power plant and not attract those swarms of touristy-type outsiders. (I especially hate the idea of outsiders just cruising on in. I actually live here). Stay still, stay toxic, and stay the same, Salem!!!
Sally Brooks July 25, 2012 at 03:56 AM
It's great to see all the phony baloney Joan Lovely city of Salem workers here on the Patch. It is even more gratifying to see them attack a peach of guy in Edward Carroll who I met last Sunday at an event. I guess the phony baloney Joanie-Kim Driscoll crew are actually a bit worried about a senior citizen non-lawyer non insider who came up with a sensible idea to GENERATE revenue for the city and region rather than do what phony Joanie has done for many years. Lets see. Last week a major increase in water and sewer rates, on July 2, a 25 percent increase in parking fines, a $300 per year parking fee all around the post ofiice which use to be free and you dont even receive a guaranteed space. Then Klassy Salems dear friend phony Joanie went for the home run-The Internet Sales Tax--making Salem much to Joanies delight the only town or city in the country to impose this riduculous anti-business anti-cosummer resolution--which she WANTS to become law. When are people going to get sick and tired of phonies like Lovely whos only solution is to tax working people back to the stoneage in the middle of the worst economy since the great depression! Sure the location isnt great, but Carroll is on to something with the casino idea in the area as a hedge against the evil Lovely-Driscoll duo burying us all with more taxes. Carroll deserves credit for coming up with an original thought that does not involve more taxes. I'm voting for Ed Carroll and urge everyone to do the same.
Flutterby July 25, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Mr. Carroll needs to come to CT and see how the casinoS affect the area - traffice, crime, drunk driving, etc. The homeowners nearby are affected tremendously. For a historic town like Salem, why would anyone want to put a casino there!?!? I get that the power plant isn't a great view either, but at least it serves a purpose - electricity that everyone needs. As for wind turbines, I don't think people understand just how little electricity they actually produce...
Keep Salem Trashy! July 25, 2012 at 02:59 PM
Hey Flutterby I suggest you take a trip down to CT yourself because it soesnt sound like you know what your talking about. Study after study shows that crime goes down along with taxes in areas where casinos have been put and CT is no exception. http://www.masslive.com/talk/index.ssf/2012/02/crime_fell_around_connecticut.html http://www.connecticutcriminaldefenseblog.com/2012/03/crime-rates-around-major-ct-casinos-decreased-since-their-establishment.shtml "When it comes to crime, legalized casino gambling seemed to be a surprisingly good bet: Local unemployment went down, tax revenue went up and crime didn't increase when a casino opened. Some researchers even found that crime declined immediately after casinos came to town." By Richard Morin Thursday, May 11, 2006 When it comes to crime, legalized casino gambling seemed to be a surprisingly good bet: Local unemployment went down, tax revenue went up and crime didn't increase when a casino opened. Some researchers even found that crime declined immediately after casinos came to town.
Keep Salem Trashy! July 25, 2012 at 03:04 PM
FYI we currently have a surplus of electricity in this state- we are hardly in any kind situation that merits tenaciously clinging to that toxic monstrosity which is ruining what otherwise be be a beautiful harbor.
Frank Kulik July 25, 2012 at 04:57 PM
There must be something in the water. First the Mayor and now Mr. Carroll have this vision of Derby Street as another I-95. The trip between Washington Street and Webb Street can be one of the most grueling journeys in the City. And that's as things stand now. This old area of Salem is one of the most densely populated neighborhoods in the City. There are days in the winter when the streets are barely passable. Beverage trucks, delivery vehicles, tourists and residents are already struggling to get to their destinations. And wait till the Grid starts digging it up. Things will only get worse. Let's get real folks.....
Bill July 25, 2012 at 07:03 PM
Grueling is the perfect description - the site of many near accidents with mini van driving tourists looking for the House of the Seven Gables. Painful to drive down.
David Moisan July 25, 2012 at 07:29 PM
I don't support casinos. That said, I can't give Mr. Carroll my vote. For one thing, Mr. Carroll, you put your name out there and people are going to weigh in, period. I don't care what a nice guy you are. Irrelevant. People will weigh in. Secondly, this is my take. When the state approved casinos, three licenses were authorized to be awarded: One on the Cape, one in central Mass., and one here, in the Boston metro area. Suffolk Downs has been cornering that Boston license for some time now; its only competitor--Bob Kraft of Foxboro--recently dropped out after the residents turned down the plan. They have a head start, and I don't see the state awarding more licenses until at least one casino is being built. I'm worried about casinos since I think the operators will gladly shift their costs onto the public in terms of roads, infrastructure and other necessities like public transit, above and over the obvious costs of people spending their paychecks there, and it is going to be a big cost for Salem even if the casino ends up in East Boston. The facts and the framework of the licensing are well known. There's no excuse for a prospective candidate not to know the broad details.
Keep Salem Trashy! July 25, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Honestly I can't say whether or not Carroll knows the framework for the licencing. I can say for sure that you don't. The State has approved 4 - the last one doesn't have a site yet.
john July 25, 2012 at 10:55 PM
This whole idea is nonsense.The new pier extension is also a waist of money and the ferry will not survive.Salem has a two month summer tourist season. Who can suck up ten months of nothing for two good ones in any business? We are more likely to see a hugh homless shelter and methedone clinic then we are of seeing a casino and cruise ships.
Keep Salem Trashy! July 26, 2012 at 12:58 AM
Excellent point. I am going to go tell Aspen Colorado this before they waste any more money chasing tourist dollars.
john July 26, 2012 at 01:02 AM
Awesome,do you need a ride to the airport?
Sarah Shribman-Adelman July 28, 2012 at 11:47 PM
Candidate Carol is talking about JOBS and LOWER TAXES. I have not heard from any of the other four candidates to focus on any of those two issues. Actually, I haven't heard from any of the elected officials about JOBS or LOWER TAXES. Not the Mayor of Salem or Joan Lovely.
john July 29, 2012 at 07:36 AM
Who ever hears of lower taxes that actually happen?

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