Stabbing/50-Person Chaos Reported in Front of Bangkok Paradise
The Salem Police dealt with three different incident involving Bangkok Paradise early Saturday.
Police say they handled several incidents, including a stabbing, that occurred as the result of chaos in front of Bangkok Paradise early Saturday.
A 12:56 a.m., police said officers came upon "a large, unruly group" with "approximately 50 people engaged in a fight or running to/from those fighting, directly in front of Bangkok Paradise."
Police said the group began to disperse as police arrived, and other Salem units responded to help disperse the large, disorderly group.
"The bouncers employed by Bangkok Paradise were either ineffective in (or unwilling to attempt) dispersing their patrons," police said.
Within 15 minutes, police said other calls, which stemmed from the incident, were reported.
At 1:01 a.m., a possible fight was reported at the Church Street/Federal Street parking lot. Police said there wasn't a fight, but a large group with approximately 20 people was in the process of being dispersed. One man was taken into protective custody and later arrested on warrants, according to police.
Then, at 1:10 a.m., police said they responded to the emergency room at North Shore Medical Center on a report a person walked in with a stab wound. On arrival, police said they were "informed that a fight had broken out in front of Bangkok Paradise, and a man had been stabled."
The Criminal Investigation Unit was notified.
Police said the detective sergeant who is the investigator of the Licensing Board was notified.
Don Nadeau
10:35 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Well that's bad for business, especially at this time of year!
Justin Mattera
10:49 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I'm curious, are these the same owners that used to own Casa Blanca on Lafayette?
Lisa Dolloff
11:47 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Yes, they're the same owners.
I hope the cooks and the menu find a new place to go, because I don't want to be without Bangkok's Crazy Noodles again, and they're not going to last long if they keep this crap up.
Thomas Stirling
11:56 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Crazy!
Justin Mattera
11:59 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I'm amazed that these owners are still allowed to operate after the shooting and stabbings at Casa Blanca.
Jared Robinson
12:04 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
This is why Bangkok Paradise can't have nice things.
Don Nadeau
12:19 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Googling Casa Blanca news Salem MA finds "shots fired outside", NOT "a shooting".
Justin Mattera
12:23 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Shooting/shots/stabbing.....tomato tomato in my book. An element that clearly is not good for Salem.
gene
12:26 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
This place is always having trouble. However, interesting that the police place part of the blame on the bouncers for not disbursing people on the sidewalk. And all this time it was the job of the police to maintain public ways.
Tom Uellner
1:56 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Unless the police are already at the business, how are they going to know that there is a huge crowd hanging out in front? The management on the other hand should have seen that and sent the bouncers out to start disbursing the crowd before it got to this point. Seems like the management doesn't care as long as the troublemakers are leaving their dollars on the bar.
gene
5:31 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Considering their track record, I believe you are right about the management of this restaurant.
Bill
12:32 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
A night out for the 47%
Justin Mattera
12:51 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I was not aware that fun for the "47%" or any % involves fighting and stabbing, I mean call me crazy...
tina l cook
4:18 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
good one!!!
zachary antczak
12:39 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
While the other % is driving around Marblehead/Newburyport drunk out of their minds trying to remember where their McMansion is.
Katrina Blair
12:48 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Sounds to me like Salem needs a good cleaning for the touriest and those that want to live there in peace.
David Sanderson
1:11 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Totally UNACCEPTABLE for Salem or any city......That bar should be closed down!!! Police should step up their prescence!!
Justin Mattera
1:25 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Totally agree. Fights happen, I understand this, however once things escalate to the next level and the owners have been involved with these types of problems before, its time to make a stance and close it down. Simply unsafe for other residents in the city.
Shava Nerad
1:47 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Actually, people like this statistically rarely hurt anyone outside their own social circles, which is the dirty little secret behind the police tolerance. It's tribal. It looks bad, and there is occasional collateral damage, but ultimately, the usual social decision is that as long as they are only hurting one another and not the 1% or property, intervention is unnecessary. This is why you find this kind of thing in every city in every nation of the world pretty much unless the communities of the poor have churches and NGOs/nonprofits/community groups strong enough to hold their own together, as "internal affairs."
If the SPD tried to enforce order the oppressive force necessary would take so many people and cost so much in blood and treasure - it would turn into a small war. We need those strong community groups.
I'm relatively new here, but maybe some of you have an idea what groups those are and how they could be helped?
Justin Mattera
1:52 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I am not faulting the SPD at all, they are there to do their job (and they did), it is the job of club/bar security and bouncers to keep the peace until the SPD arrive. Clearly this establishment did not provide adequate security and in turn someone was stabbed. If someone was walking on the sidewalk that night, just headed home and happened to be caught in this crowd, its a real possibility they could have been hurt. It's apparent this ownership (if its the same as casa blanca) should not be able to run this type of business in the city. This is just my opinion.
advina quien
2:35 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Oh Bill.... I I am in awe of your racist comments however it is motivator for us as the 47 percent to open up the classiest establishment ever.
Bill
10:59 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Dependency and entitlement cuts across all races and creeds. It is inclusive
Kevin Branagan
12:09 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
What portion of the 47% were involved in the stabbing? Was it active duty Army personnel in Afghanistan? Was it the elderly?
Bill
1:44 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Perhaps the illegal aliens, welfare/ebt kings and queens. Drug addicts, ex cons, layabouts etc. Probably more likely than the elderly.
David Pelletier
2:51 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Sounds like the joint was hopping!
jeanmartin
3:01 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Love the way this was reported. If this happened in the Point it would have been address as a riot or an all out gang war. Not an"unruly group".
Jack Carver
3:54 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Kind of hard to comment, lot of facts are missing. Was it locals, out of town people or College kids? I will wait to have the answers before I comment on the 50-Person Chaos and the man who was stabled. One thing for sure Chaos like this across from the Mayor office will not go unpunished.
Justin Mattera
4:11 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I agree with comment across from the mayors office, but does it really matter if it was locals, tourists or college kids? This same type of behavior has followed these owners from Lafayette Street to Washington Street. Enough is enough. Salem does not need a place where people get stabbed, that's the bottom line.
Jen
5:37 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Some super trashy girl from Rhode Island almost hit me with her car and then honked, flipped me off and then rolled down her window and started screaming at me yesterday. The crazy people that are attracted to Salem this time of year is def bad news for locals.
Chatsworth Osborne III
8:16 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Isn't this the same place where last spring some guy and his friend both got drunk and then fought each other on Bridge Street on their way home?
Roberta Conners
8:30 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
How do we live in peace if we continue to elect these democrats that in courage minorities to live in our community that is getting worse? Thanks Kim Driscoll!
Tracey
8:21 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
think the word you mean is "encourage" might want to use spell check if you can't spell, just shows your ignorance
Alex S.
9:28 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I live on Lynde Street, near the Y, and i can say that this is the second or third weekend in the past two months that have had HUGE fights going on the parking lot in the wee hours of Friday/Saturday/Sunday mornings. It always seems to be the same shite. People screaming about being "disrespected," someone else screaming that they saw someone with a guy/someone was shot/they will shoot/stab someone (take your pick, I've heard it all) and just straight up yelling and screaming and honking to the point that it does get a little scary.
I stood on my porch this past Friday/Saturday morning (it was about 1am I believe) and watched a mass of people yelling at each other, blocking each other into spots with their cars, and overall just causing complete chaos. I understand that it's a weekend and that people get a little nuts, especially this time of year, but there's no excuse for this to be happening as often as I've witnessed and over what appears to be silly, silly stuff.
And, I will note, that there was definitely no police detail int he parking lot while this was going on, not sure if they showed up after everyone disbursed, but for a good twenty minutes it was just a complete yelling madhouse (i've also never heard the phrase "yo" uttered so many times in one place.
KlassySalem
10:04 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Youtube can be your friend. Post it up!
Bill
11:03 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Maybe it was a meeting for Obama for America that got out of hand.
Justin Mattera
9:47 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Alex, you should be telling this story to the licensing board meetings. A little noise is one thing, what you have described is another. Call city hall for the next meeting, it's held right down the street from you.
Alex S.
9:56 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
thanks, Justin. I will look into this. I work full time and am in grad school full time so I may not be able to make a meeting, but perhaps I can pen a letter...not sure if it will be helpful or will fall on deaf ears but I certainly would have no problem vouching for the activity i witness on a weekly basis.
Alex S.
10:04 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
also...since I really have no proof that these fights i've witnessed involved people who may or may not have been at Bangkok Paradies beforehand...do I really want to relay my experience(s) to a licensing board or is there something else more appropriate?
Justin Mattera
10:20 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I would start by approaching the owners with your concerns, from there if nothing is done, I would contact the police when a situation becomes intolerable (appears you've had this situation a few times already). If the problem still continues (apparently its a pattern with these owners) then a letter or an appearance at a board meeting would be the right thing.
john
10:25 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Wake up people. This is the third brawl in Salem in 2 weeks and Halloween is around the corner. Two have been down the point and this one downtown.Salem is on the fast track to hell in a hand basket.
jason wert
10:39 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Sounds like this place is in reading pa! This place should be shut down, there is no room for this garbage in salem! This is xactly the kind of garbage that is destroying my neighborhood & communities everywhere. Sad to see this going on
jason wert
10:40 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Sounds like this place is in reading pa! This place should be shut down, there is no room for this garbage in salem! This is xactly the kind of garbage that is destroying my neighborhood & communities everywhere. Sad to see this happening there
adrienne
5:32 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
i work in the catering industry & live in the Derby Wharf neighborhood. there isn't a Friday or Saturday night that goes by when there isn't a large mob of people out in the street in front of Murphy's. pushing, shoving, screaming, yelling, scantily clad young women falling off their high-heels, meatheads walking right in front of my car, general mayhem & disorderly conduct. oh, joy! i can hardly wait for the carnival to come to town. NOT!
PJ
9:56 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
When we had this problem a couple of years ago (in the fall again when more college students around) the Town House Square establishments (Rockafella's, ONeills, Fresh Taste of Asia, etc) all enacted a Zero Tolerance policy for letting people in the place. Not sure how that system worked, but if you were "in the system" for any related infraction-- you were not admitted entrance. ID's scanned on the Thr-Sat night peak window. Bangkok's owners need to step up and pay what it costs to join this program. It has been effective for others.
R Lim
2:36 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Bangkok today got their entertainment license revoked for six months (one day BEFORE their scheduled hearing). We had some amazing DJs scheduled to play in Salem this month. Certainly the biggest acts in nightlife Salem has ever hosted. Its sad that Salem can't be a par of this. I always saw Salem as a great place for business, but its clear to me now that although Salem is a great location the city doesn't have what it takes to support its nightlife. This is ultimately going to hurt business... not help it. Way to go SPD! You burned your witch!