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Packed Senior Center Meeting Provides Few Answers

City councilors are expected to vote on Mayor Kim Driscoll's financing proposal at their meeting at City Hall tonight.

 

There were few definitive answers for the 150 city residents who sat through a four-hour meeting at the Salem Senior Center on Broad Street Wednesday night.

In fact, they left without knowing how several city councilors will vote when the proposal is considered again tonight - a fact that angered Mayor Kim Driscoll.

In the moments before the packed meeting adjourned, Driscoll made one last push to have city councilors share where they stand on a proposal to finance a new 20,000-square-foot senior center at the intersection of Boston and Bridge streets.

"What's going to change between today and tomorrow?" Driscoll asked. "I've been working on this project like I'm pulling my hair out for years now and I think this is really unfortunate and I feel disrespected." 

Council President Jerry L. Ryan's responses to Driscoll's request: "We don't have to say where we stand" and "I don't give in to peer pressure."

After four hours and dozens of speakers, councilors voted to move the issue out of committee. Meaning they will be forced to reveal exactly where they stand at their meeting at City Hall tonight, when the mayor's proposal to pay for the senior center will be put to a vote.

All except for Ward 3 councilor Todd A. Siegel, who said he will not vote on the issue because Wednesday night's meeting wasn't broadcast live and he felt it would be unfair to city residents who couldn't be in attendance.

"What about the 40,000 other people who couldn't be here?" he asked while reaffirming that he won't be voting on the issue Thursday night.

The proposal will need the support of 8 out of 11 councilors to be approved.

Thomas Furey, William Legault, Robert McCarthy, Josh Turiel, Paul Prevey, Kevin Carr Jr. and Joseph O'Keefe said they will support the proposal. Speaking out against the project was Arthur Sargent III.

Michael Sosnowski and Ryan did not say how they would vote.

The wide majority of city residents who spoke at the meeting were in favor of building the senior center.

Click Here to view our full CoverItLive transcript from last night's meeting.

Salem Patch will be posting live updates from City Hall tonight.

Where do you stand on the proposed project?

Let us know in the comments section below.

Related Topics: Salem Senior Center and Senior Center Salem

Dawn Cerbone

7:10 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

If the majority of the citizens want the center then they should pass it. I don't understand the comment of not giving in to peer pressure when a councilman is supposed to listen to their constituents and follow the will of the citizens. Sounds like some people have a God complex.

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Daniel

8:26 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Sadly Dawn so many elected officials forget that they were elected to enact the will of the people. This ignoring of their constituents will seems to be pervasive within our government at all levels. I would think that this meeting was the perfect place to "say where you stand" and following the will of your constituents is NOT giving in to "peer pressure", it's doing your job.

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Jared Robinson

8:57 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

They work for themselves and their friends. All too often are the concerns of the constituents left on the floor. Sometimes because the councilperson believes they know better... other times out of pride.

Jared Robinson

8:55 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Sosnowski and Ryan are voting no from my understanding...

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KlassySalem

9:45 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

As is Sargent. Siegel claims to still have questions. Why they haven't been asked at this point is a mystery. He seems to think we should rent a senior center somewhere, though he seems upset that we rent the city hall annex. Odd.

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Jared Robinson

9:58 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Email and call your council and ask them to vote yes (or whatever you want) http://salem.com/Pages/SalemMA_Council/index

Peer pressure? How about wishes of the constituency?

Bill

9:36 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

You won't like Kim when she's angry!! The mindless inaction is what Mass. politics is all about.

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michael beaulieu

9:44 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

"What's going to change between today and tomorrow"
Well the people that call the councilors and tell them how they feel about it.

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LizPW

9:45 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

This is so sad for our city's seniors (who have to go to other towns for services). This is a much needed and long overdue project that would benefit our senior population as well as our ability to create jobs in Salem. Shame on these councilors who are stopping this project from moving forward.

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Stephen F. Hultgren

9:53 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

It's time we all got behind and supported the Mayor and the people who will benefit, (the cities Seniors), from this wonderful plan. The entire city will benefit with the revitalization of this otherwise stagnant section of the city.

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Carolyn Costain

10:02 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Support her for what! Turning Salem into a graffiti art city, that will entice any vandal old enough to buy a spray paint can? She's destroying the tranquil antiquity of a historic city with turbines cruise ships spray paint etc! She should move to Boston if she likes to live in a big city and not try to turn our city into a mini Boston!

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Jared Robinson

10:04 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

what's the "Graffiti art" got to do with a senior center?

Jared Robinson

10:01 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Deadlocks in government with no help to the citizens seems to be the ever-present situation we are dealing with everywhere now, isn't it?
Government standstills are just infuriating to citizens.

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Carolyn Costain

10:12 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

This city depends on its tourism! Apparently you didn't read up on the Graffiti art in yesterdays Salem news.

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Jared Robinson

10:22 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

I did read up on the Graffiti art. It's not like they're spray painting historic buildings... they're and agreeing with her on the senior center doesn't mean you have to agree with her on the art.

Michelle

10:11 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

I'm really disappointed that Sosnowski didn't indicate his position. I'm a ward resident and have written to ask him to support it, and received no response so far.

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KlassySalem

10:48 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

He was pretty clear that he's not voting for it.

The mayor ran through 20 or so slides and a video. Sosnowski didn't glance at one of them.

DBL

10:18 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

They act like petulant children. I for one know if Seigel doesn't vote tonight he won't have my vote in the next election. When have they ever had the showing of the community like last night? To say the interests of the community weren't represented because it wasn't broadcast last night is idiotic. Most likely more people were in that room than the number of people who actually watch these ridiculous proceedings on TV.

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KlassySalem

10:50 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Being in the room, it was clear that the large majority, including the vast majority of seniors who use the current center, want this new one built as proposed.

Flora Tonthat

11:13 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

That was a great presentation by the Mayor. The $10million+ difference in price tag to the NO vote's alternative of a stand alone, Willow's senior center is astounding. Not only do we not have the money to build it, there would be no tax revenue to sustain it like there would be ($450,000/yr) for the Gateway Center. All the pieces are aligned for this project to move forward. Let's build it already!! A NO vote will mean seniors have to stay at 5 Broad st where those leaks may grow mold (if not already) and really make them sick.

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Lisa Dolloff

12:19 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Excuse me? Yes, yes you do actually have to say where you stand. Sounds like we need a new city council president. >> Council President Jerry L. Ryan's responses to Driscoll's request: "We don't have to say where we stand" and "I don't give in to peer pressure."

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Jared Robinson

1:07 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

probably the most concerning thing about this...

john

1:06 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Driscoll says there is no plan B ? There never is a plan B to anything she wants.

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john

1:41 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

I don't understand why people are so quick to agree with her opinions. She is the same person who said our former school superintendent had done a great job it that it was a big loss for Salem. We soon found out otherwise and what did she say,lets not focus on the past we must move forward. It's called accountability, not looking back.She also tried to ignore the police contract on the buyback and lost the grievence. Half her staff has quit. All these bad decisions cost the taxpayers money.

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Jared Robinson

2:04 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

just curious... what do you suggest happen when a mayor runs unchallenged?

john

2:28 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

A strong council to keep her in line. Have you ever watched a school commitee meeting? She is brutal.

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Linny

2:40 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

The continuing saga of a new Senior Center has been a continuing for way too many hears. It 's becoming a new version of the Beverly/Salem Bridge......If we wait long enough -30, 40, 50 years it just might actually happen. Councilor Ryan with his I don't have to tell and Councilor Siegel stating that he will not vote on the Senior Center obviously do not really care what the majority of citizens want. IT IS WAY PAST THE TIME TO GET THIS DONE!!!!!!

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DBL

3:15 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

I don't blindly support everything the mayor has done. As a matter of fact the longer she is in office the more distaste I have for the way she runs things. Unfortunately she seems on track to run unopposed. I do however support a new center for the seniors and am baffled by the opposition. This is a perfect opportunity to accomplish several goals and meet a large need in the community. There are always those who jump in and take the leap and want to move things forward and those who sit back and like to Monday morning quarterback. I'd rather side with those who leap forward and get this done. Will there be consequences later? Who knows but the same could be said of any proposal. Why wait any longer??? Those who criticize will do so no matter what offer is on the table it's just their nature. She will never make everybody happy.

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LizPW

3:26 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

This is a great post because this is not about agreeing with everything that Mayor Driscoll proposes. This is about finally getting moving on a senior center that is overdue in Salem to provide the seniors in our community the services they need IN the community in which they live.

john

4:01 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Everything is overdue in Salem. That's her game. Drag it out and then say my way is the only way left. People are critical of those that don't support her because she is so negative of alternative views.How about a new senior center at Winter Island? Salem has done nothing with that land for 25 years.

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Bill

4:23 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Hmm...sounds like a familiar tactic - she is on her way to the White House!

Mike Lash

6:56 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

I understand one should question everything and never blindly follow anything or one.
I see the City has the land, funding, a plan, and more than enough seniors to use the facility.
We should try to keep those seniors happy as they are the fastest growing demographic.
Large demographic = money for the community and the City.

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