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5 Places That Bother Me In Downtown Salem

Here's my take on traffic, loitering, litter, Pickering Wharf and Museum Place.

 

 

Most of my time is spent in downtown Salem. Thirty years of wanderlust has dissipated and it is my pleasure to say I am content to occupy my time in this small corner of the world. 

When not spending idle time, I have been found employed by various local entities in the corporate, hospitality, municipal and fitness fields. If you see me sitting about staring at a computer screen, chances are I am working on one of my writing projects or opining for Patch.

As I walk the town and take in the sights, I see many of the same things you see. Your perspective and mine may differ on occasion. Once in a while we may see things the same way. 

Salem has changed tremendously in the last 20 years. It has changed for the better. Not everything has improved and some things have become worse. I complain about the things I don't like, as do most of you. I try, however, not to be one those miserable creatures who complain about everything.

Here today I share the five things that I find to be dragging Salem down.

1. Intersection at Washington and New Derby Streets

This is the black hole of Salem traffic. Otherwise sensible folks drive into this traffic nexus and lose all common sense. Pedestrians cross willy nilly with or without the signals. Bicyclists ignore everything and everybody. On occasion, a certain colorful character will provide entertainment with his shopping cart and rum-fueled gyrations in search of a handout.

There is no fool-proof solution, but I would like to see an increased traffic enforcement effort there as opposed to traffic direction — less waving and whistling and more citations.

2. Lafayette Park

What really needs to be said here? Most of those spoiling this park on a daily basis have no real interest in being helped. I know most of them by name.  They don't want work, and they don't want services. They want money to drink. There is no true system in place to handle these people. Arrest and release, arrest and release — same old story.

The law seems to favor keeping these lost souls on the street. At the risk of being called mean, insensitive and a few other things, I say get them in treatment or lock them up. How many times can one person get caught using a tree for a toilet before the system says "enough?"

3. Bus Stop at Walgreen's

This is another gathering point for those on the edges of society. Here they can mingle with those who use the bus service and also take advantage of pharmacy customers for short-term, no interest loans.

The police have recently stepped up activity in this area by arresting some aggressive panhandlers. That is exactly what is needed.

4. River Walk To Pickering Wharf

A recent sunny afternoon last week found me walking around Pickering Wharf and the River Walk. Peabody Park and the river walk were clean and populated mostly by neighborhood kids. It seems I caught it in a good day.

Pickering Wharf was another story. Empty booze bottles and other trash were lying around anywhere there wasn't a local business entrance. Nips, pints, coffee cups and cigarette butts all shared space under benches and in planters.  There are some empty storefronts and lots of crumbling brick and mortar.

Rockett Realty has owned this property for a long time. Hopefully, their recent troubles have been resolved and they are back on top of their game. There are a lot of local merchants depending on them to hold up their end of the bargain. This spot is, after all, a critical component of our downtown business community.

5. Museum Place Mall/Parking Garage

There are changes taking place within the mall. There is some prime empty space available and a new restaurant opening soon where Asahi used to be. The mall building itself, and the city-owned garage need some serious attention. The entire building needs to be power-washed top to bottom. It is filthy with black dirt and a greenish buildup visible in many locations, especially at the garage entrance.

It is past time to give it a bath inside and out. Improved lighting and some cameras in the garage would also be a step in the right direction. Visible, active security personnel should be in both city-owned garages after dark every night. Marley Properties has taken some steps on their end, and the city needs to build on whatever momentum the recent art project on the garage wall has built.

This is our city. It belongs to those of us who work every day to make it our home. It belongs to those who care enough to be involved. It belongs to those whose parents were born here and to those who have just arrived.

Get mad as hell, stop complaining and get involved.

About this column: William Legault, a Salem native and downtown fixture, offers his thoughts and opinions on all things Salem and more. Let him know what you think and why he is right or wrong. Related Topics: A Voice in Salem and Quality Of Life

Mark Steele

7:23 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Good points.
Downtown Salem is a great place to walk around. The visitors don't overwhelm us and history is around every corner. Now, I'm sensitive to the less fortunate among us, I'm all for helping people with problems. But it seems to me that Salem has many more street people than other cities. One doesn't have to negotiate around street people in Portland, ME or Portsmouth, NH when they visit. Newburyport, MA is a great town to wander around in and there are no vagrants around that I can see.
It isn't an easy answer, but I simply wonder why does Salem have more than it's share of this situation?

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Stina Cornwall

10:14 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Unfortunately the transient population increased in Salem when Danvers State Mental Hospital closed it's doors.

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Americus Bell

2:40 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

I doubt Danvers had an impact. If so, other towns would be in the same boat. What makes Salem different?

The shelter attracts the homeless. Now - the shelter is dry, but the services offered around here are a magnet. A shelter doesn't belong in the center of a thriving downtown. Period.

Since it's not likely going anywhere - suck it up.

Btw, panhandling is a First Amendment protected activity. That's not to say law enforcement couldn't make it a lot hotter, methinks, but they need the tools. Check out San Francisco's sit-lie law. It can be sidewalks, or any public property. It has some teeth in it (fines, restraint from certain areas, jail), too.

Never happen? Hey, if it happened in SF, it can happen anywhere.

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Paul Wennik

2:46 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Paul Wennik---Most likely because we have now and have had for some time, a community funded settlement house /facility, in our downtown area. They do wonderful work, considering the difficult tasks and challenges they face with the folks they serve, on a daily basis.I live a block away and have had no issues, but, I understand, how this population may possibly offend or intimidate others. How does it go--"But for the grace of God, there go I---" I'm one of those that gives what I can--and am not naive about where it goes --not for me to judge.

dd

7:45 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Right on, on all accounts! please run for mayor

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Anita Armell

8:18 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Great article! On the issue of our vagrants...how about more foot police in town. Keep 'certain' people moving and not sleeping on benches in the areas. pan handling is a fault of cities, however, the foot police would be a helping 'move along',

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SuzannM

8:39 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Great points Bill. Yes to foot patrol

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RWSshs66pu70

8:47 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Thanks Bill for highlighting some of Salem's 'works in progress'. I look forward to your next article highlighting 5 points about the downtown that raise your spirits (non-alcoholic) and make you proud. We obviously don't need a foot patrol when we are getting you for free. Resist the call to run for Mayor . . . for now.

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adrienne

8:52 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Bill for Mayor! Yay!
There are alot of eyesores in downtown Salem, but I try to focus on the positive & the beautiful things that I see.
When confronted by panhandlers, I simply say, "I'm poor, too! Except, I work!".

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chester suchecki

8:56 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

salem is not the sleepy bedroom community it once was but has morphed into a borough of boston. in doing this has brought its problems. the homeless,psycho drivers,crime,and rotten politics. we all have to live with all of this and then some from all levels of government.
the patina in the parking garages will most likly stay there. the rocketts may figure out that pickering wharf buildings look like crap and riley plaza will remain the same nightmare it has been for 60 plus years. god bless america

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Becky M.

9:24 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

We moved here over 3 years ago and still can't get used to the way people drive. It baffles me how people will slam on their brakes on a straight-away to let someone out of a side street, yet they run red lights and stop signs like no tomorrow. We live off Pickering Wharf, so we deal with the Derby/Washington intersection daily. The worst is when people are turning left onto Washington from Derby, and they all pile into the intersection on the arrow even though their line of traffic isn't moving. Those of us going straight across Washington on Derby the opposite way are then stuck through another light. The other bad thing about this intersection, no one gets the "turn left only" lane going straight over Washington. We're coming from Pickering Wharf, going straight in the correct lane. People in the left lane which cleary states "left turn only", continue straight through the light almost side swiping us, then we get the finger or yelled at for almost hitting them. The ignorance of some drives is really astounding. My second complaint is also the bus stop area at Walgreens. I've never gone in that store (I try to never go there) without being harassed or spit at by people if I refuse to give the beggers change. It's disgusting and I agree, more foot police would probably be of some help in that area specifically!

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scottfioretta

9:53 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

We moved here 3yrs ago as well and the driving is horrendous. I will never understand how an entire states populace believes its ok to block the eastbound traffic while waiting for the westbound traffic to open up. On 114 its terrible all day and nearly all night. Part of that could be the amount of people travelling that stretch of road from Peabody-Salem and the only having 2 traffic lights in a 3 mile stretch. This states infrastructure can't handle the people. End of story.

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Antoine M. Boisvert

10:08 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Except for a few suburban subdivisions off of Highland or Loring Avenues, this city (like most of the larger communities on the North Shore) was not built with automotive traffic in mind. Getting to and from Salem by car is never going to be easy (and if you think we have it bad, try Marblehead). This puts out of step with much of the North American paradigm, which is impossible to navigate WITHOUT a car. So, depending where you moved here from, Scott, I don't find your reaction surprising. 114 and Boston St, as our primary links to 128 and the larger highway infrastructure, are always going to be congested. But I invite you to consider the positives that have accrued to Salem from its high density and limited highway access. It remains a highly walkable city, and the difficulty of getting to and from it allows it a measure of economic independence from both Boston and Shopping Mall World. Peabody, Middleton and Danvers, with better access to the Malls, have fewer and less interesting businesses downtown than we do. Unlike some towns, you could live in Salem without owning a car, and have a pretty rich life; I know people who do it.

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Becky M.

10:52 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Scott's just mentioning the traffic/driving issues, which I agree with completely! I don't get the mentality of people pulling out into traffic (traffic which has the right of way) because they don't want to wait when there is an opening, and block the traffic on the main road until there is an opening the other way. Such as someone pulling out of a side street turning left onto Highland. They pull out, block the two lines going straight and wait until the on-coming traffic to have an opening to continue on. The obnoxious mindset while driving (I've noticed mostly in CT, MA and NH in that order) is rather dangerous. Otherwise we definitely love living here!

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Americus Bell

2:08 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

I can't pick a "worst" at that intersection! When sitting at New Derby and Washington, you're just as likely to see traffic on W St sitting there blocking you, as your light turns green.

As to the left lane turn? I notice the cutting in more coming from the other direction, Norman St.

Bill nailed it: less waving and whistling and more citations. I remember when the fine for not stopping for pedestrians went sky high. People caught on really quickly!

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Driving In Salem

9:58 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Driving here is appalling and despite the fact that the city wasn't designed for the traffic, there are laws about driving that are in effect here regardless of city planning (or lack thereof). It's too bad that many drivers and the Salem Police don't seem to think those laws are good enough to follow or enforce. Not sure where either group gets off ignoring the law, but the Police are tacitly approving lawbreaking and it needs to stop.

Bob Broderick

9:33 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

"Get them treatment or lock them up" i say enough with the homeless, spare change people downtown. I just removed a pillow and blanket from a tree outside my home on federal st. Good article bill. Thanks. And don't run for office.

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Antoine M. Boisvert

9:43 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Phew. Thanks Chester! All the warm and fuzzy feelings were making me nervous. Where was the cynicism that we look to Patch comments for? Where the hyperbole that can make Salem in the '10s into Chicago in the '30s? I knew you wouldn't let us down.

Anyway, Bill, I don't think your point about institutionalizing chronic vagrants—especially problem ones-is harsh or uncharitable. It is, if anything, a lack of charity that leaves the mentally ill to their own devices on the streets (thanks Ronald Reagan!)

In any case, I like the Harborwalk, even there is often a guy or two sleeping on a park bench. Pickering wharf, on the other hand seems like failure of a public/private partnership that perhaps should be more explicitly negotiated and discussed. The buildings were poorly made to begin with and have not aged well. On the other hand, it seems like the number of businesses there that might attract locals as well as tourists has slightly increased. If it were an enclosed mall it would be clear that it is the Rockett's responsibility to keep it clean, but since it is open air, the responsibility is less obvious. Are those city roads that lead through it?

As for Museum Place Mall, can we finally cut our losses already? Keep the Thai restaurant, the Movie Theater and the businesses on the ped mall, and add the rest of it to the parking garage.

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KlassySalem

10:08 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Don't worry. John is sleeping in today.

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Judith Lazdowski

10:36 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Antoine -

I don't want to be added to the parking garage. I'm reasonably sure that Lotus Gifts, Essex Pizza, 3Potato4, the two hair dressers, Witch Tee's, the nail salon, the post office, the haunted house, and the new Toy Museum wouldn't want to be added to the garage either.

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Antoine M. Boisvert

10:41 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

I apologize for being flip, Judith. If you are making a successful go of it in there, then more power to you, and your fellow business! To this outside observer (me) it looks deader than dead in there. But I freely admit that I am probably not in there at the right times.

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john

12:12 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Actualy,I was downtown checking out the latest disaster.The trees in front of Coons were removed last week and replaced with brick.Today water is bubbling out of the ground from under the new brick so,now I guess we pull up the brick and fix the broken water pipe.Well done.

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john

12:21 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Thanks,that makes one.

scottfioretta

9:50 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Boston Street. All of it. The constant trash, the boarding house across the street from Walgreens, the terrible dips/bumps/potholes/and damm near sinkhole right across from Walgreens. The dregs that patrol Arge's. The parking in front of and around Arge's. The empty lot again across from Walgreens. This is one of the first things you see heading into Salem.

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LindyLou

8:06 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

I could not agree more. That boarding house is a menace and dont get me on ARGEs I live around the corner and have the customers walking down my street.

We are are sympathetic to the less fortunate but some of these folks are down right scary. I have lived in Salem for 8 yrs the homeless population has dramatically increased most likely due to the economic downturn and very sad but it does impact the quality of life in Salem.

chester suchecki

10:13 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

hey salem resident campers thats where our illustriuos mayor wants to put our senior center. what a wonderful spot. pollution trash potholes traffic to beat the band boarding houses. and your right ditch the east india mall. make it a street again along with essex st. enough of this cutsy crap and let the residents have downtown back.

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Rebecca DeVries

11:43 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Great thoughts Bill! You chose the same areas I would....I moved to Salem 10 years ago and since then there has been tremendous improvements in retail and restaurants, but there was never a serious problem with vagrants and homeless as there is now. I'm surprised no one in this forum has mentioned the amount of discarded needles found in the city on a daily basis. The public drinking, sleeping, begging and trash from these people is out of control. And this is without the methadone clinic in town that has been proposed....

To Rockett Management: PLEASE clean up Pickering Wharf. This is a true asset to Salem and it is a mess now with retailers not being able to make a living down there anymore.

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Diane Wolf

1:27 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

One quick and easy fix to clean up Pickering Wharf a little bit- trash bins. There is NOT ONE SINGLE trash barrel in all of the Wharf, except the one that the nice fellas at the Hungry Whale put out during their business hours.
The city puts them all around, but the Wharf St. is a private road - not the city's responsibility.

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Americus Bell

2:29 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Carry in, carry out, just like the national maritime site. Ahem. At least the rangers stay on top of it, and I've never seen so much trash and "empties" as I have this year.

The area on the river where the boats tie up is a disaster. Huge cracked planters, trash, bums, etc. Nice! When yachts bigger than a lot of houses around here tie up. Nice first impression.

Heaven forfend the Rocketts would have to address trash removal. One more notch off the bottom line. And since they're doing such a stellar job [sarcasm], what makes us think they'd stay on top of overflowing trash barrels?

There have been some minor improvements down there, but the rotting buildings are pretty much the same. Could it be... the city said, clean it up, or you don't get no steenking new hotel tower? Well, maybe not. Much more needs to be done.

I've also heard that the Rockett boys are not the tenants' friends. They nickel and dime them, and offer little assistance when some building casualty that should be the landlord's responsibility occurs. The tenants are very much on their own, I gather. I've never heard anyone say, boy, did the Rocketts step up! More like, look at what happened, and where are they?

What would you expect from two men who are being sued by their own mother for basically embezzling from her?

http://www.wickedlocal.com/marblehead/news/x1539860970/Marblehead-family-feuds-over-estate#axzz24lvj62R7

Don Nadeau

1:56 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

" Get mad as hell, stop complaining and get involved." Hear, hear, Bil! Now where are my appointment book and wallet? Mrs. Mayor was kind enough to meet we non-auto-wielding commuters this morning at Salem Station to collect signatures for a petition. Want to "get involved" in improving Salem? Sign the Community Preservation Act petition, and vote for it if it makes the ballot. Better yet, stand at the corner of Washington and New Derby or outside a Walgreen and collect signatures. Well?

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Justin Mattera

2:56 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

With all this talk about Pickering Wharf and the management and merchants, how about the fact that Wharf Street is owned by THE CITY OF SALEM up to the end of 62 On The Wharf. Now let's talk about the fact that when it rains even a little, the CITY PROPERTY floods to the point that a normal car can not cross to get the rest of the wharf. The city has NO PROBLEM sending the meter-maids to write parking violation on this part of Wharf Street, but spending money instead of collecting it seems to be an issue (for this particular situation).

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john

3:05 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

As for the flooding,get in line and good luck.

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NinaBel

4:10 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Thanks for pointing out these areas, I agree with you. Another that I may add (without anyone getting offended) is Salem Willows. Granted the last time I was there was in May, but it was filthy! Strewn with broken beer bottles and trash all over the place. Very sad, because it could be a beautiful destination for the day. Look at Forest River Park, it's very well kept, clean and a pleasure to spend a relaxing afternoon at. I've been living in Salem for the past 10 years and, yes, the city has improved leaps and bounds (especially since Mayor Driscoll got elected into office- Thank you Mayor), but there are certainly areas that need improvement.

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windpower

7:53 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

here is what they do in New York city about blocking intersections .
A officer with a photo devive takes a photo it prints out a $200 fine he places it on your window and I am quite sure you won't do it again ,
Just think of the $$$$ Salem could make

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john

8:29 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Regarding the traffic issue at N Derby and Wash,I don't see this a driver only problem.The traffic design does not work for so many reasons.It's amazing when the fire trucks come towards Wash and there is no place for them to go.All of that problem is a result of the pedestrian crosswalk in the square. Two lanes of traffic merging to one just before the crosswalk.Unreal.Eliminate the parking spaces on the street from the fountain to the old court house and make it two lanes,at least seasonaly. Short of constructing an elevated crosswalk over Wash what else can be done?

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Driving In Salem

10:03 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

You can't tear up and rebuild the city - entirely impractical. It IS a driver problem. Drivers need to follow the rules they learned when they got their licenses, not the rules they decided to create when being patient no longer suited them. Really, this is a simple matter of following & enforcing existing rules.

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Erin

9:37 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

I just returned from a visit to Salem and that intersection is most definitely not just a driver only problem. Pedestrians seldom wanted to wait for the very short walk light to come up and crossed whenever they 'thought' they had a break.

From a pedestrian's viewpoint, the way the pedestrian crossing lights work doesn't work well, if you're trying to get to the diagonally opposite corner. You barely have enough time to get across one street, then you have to stand there and wait for it to cycle through all of the lights again, before you get to cross the 2nd intersection. People get impatient.

d

9:07 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Many of the problems discussed here could be addressed by relentless enforcement of the laws against littering. The panhandlers and tree-pee offenders are often the same folks who fling empty nips. Let's make that lifestyle less comfortable.
The traffic complaints are also largely issues of insufficient enforcement. I'd love to see ticketing of those who use the left-turn-only lane as a shortcut to straight ahead.
Finally, the Rocketts might be more inclined to maintain their property if there was a significant downside to their current derelictions.
In all 3 cases, I think it's a failure by the city administration to use the tools that they already have.

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Keep Salem Trashy!

1:12 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012

I think there is a obvious downside, they are just not responsible enough to care/notice. Business are going under, there are empty store fronts, and their reputation and the obvious maintenance issues are scaring off strong new tenants. They have a gem and there are wrecking the value of their asset by being defacto slumlords and coming off like total shysters. Everything from their maintenance department, their leasing office personal, the leasing agreements (3x longer than anyone else - and shady as can be) needs to be tossed in the garbage. They need to start over with new personal and several cases of paint. The owners should shop others and see how property is supposed to be managed, marketed, and leased so they and demand more from their employees. I can attest to the fact that their horrible personal is scaring away tenants who would otherwise love to set up shop on the wharf.

Henry Talbot

9:15 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

You all have no idea what you are talking about. The homeless population and transient population has been reduced in Salem. Go to Peabody Square and have a look, go to Beverly and have a look. There are a handful of homeless in Salem that refuse any type of help, they are not allowed into Lifebridge because they do not follow the rules and regulations of the facility. The police have had most that you are complaining about committed on a Section-12 due to alcohol abuse, they also take a zero tolerance approch with them. There is a breakdown in the system for status offenses or miscellaneous city ordinance violations. I would suggest to you that Salem way ahead of the surrounding communities when it comes to dealing with the homeless. Lafayette Park has also improved, there are in fact some people that frequent the park but I would suggest that they are not homeless, a park is a public place, you can not prevent folks from sitting on the benches. I remember when there were large groups sitting inside of the park drinking and creating disturbances. I never see that any more, the City and Police have done a great job.

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john

9:39 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Well Henry,the ones that are not allowed in the shelter have not been commited and are in the police log daily.Last week I saw a guy at Lafayette park face down,passed out and pissed himself at 2pm.I don't see this in Peabody square. There is a homless guy in Salem ,with the same last name as you, who gets PC every couple of weeks. I am not connecting him to you but this guy has been around for years.A public park is not for drunks to passout at,thats against the law.

john

9:17 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

One thing to consider,for whatever it's worth, is that the Police Chief and Mayor both support the shelter. Not sure how you could enforce traffic issues with such a poor design.As an example,When coming down Norman St towards Wash,when you get to the awful set of lights it goes from two lanes to three for the next 30 yards. How can everyone be in the correct lane? If you want to go straight you have to be in the right lane with all the cars that want to go right.It makes no sense.

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Henry Talbot

9:30 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

The people everyone is complaining about are not clients of the "shelter" they are banned from the shelter, go ask them I have, they do not want help, go ask then I have. The liquor stores need to stop selling to them.

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William Legault

10:02 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Henry, most of the liquor stores do refuse to sell to these guys. I know this from personal past experience working in a downtown liquor store. That is not a solution as they just send in others to buy for them. This is not a liquor store issue. It is personal responsibility issue, and a societal issue. Why have we reached a point where it is acceptable for some to become professional leeches who sleep on park benches, urinate on doorways, and demand handouts from old ladies picking up prescriptions at pharmacies?

Banned from the shelter? How does that make sense? Prior to the move from Crombie Street, the powers that be at the "shelter" promised to address the chronic
cases that inhabited Salem at the time. Some of those chronic cases still assault our senses and lives every day today. How does banning them address the issue?

Keep in mind that I sat on Mayor Usoviscz's "Taskforce on Homelessness" during that time and remember well all of the conversations.

Henry Talbot

8:08 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Bill I guess we should thank the law makers then for making it unconstitutional for laws and ordinances that prohibit panhandling! I would suggest that the current Director and Staff at Lifebridge have far exceeded the former "Crombie Street" flunkies. They have attempted to get this small group of transient's the help they need, however they refuse any assistance and continue to live on the street. I am not sure how Lifebridge can be held accountable for their failure. I like you have been in Salem my entire 48 years. I remember when there were a lot more homeless wondering the streets. Mayor Usovicz's task force? The same Homeless task force that now meets quarterly to discuss complaints and concerns involving the homeless, the same task force that addresses the issues of the homeless impacting the downtown, the task force that has not received a single complaint from a downtown business in years. The same task force that use to meet monthly but due to lack of complaints meets quarterly. Is that the task force you are referring to? The meeting is run by Jane Guy in the Planning Department. I believe the minutes are recorded and available to the public. If we have it that bad in this community then take a walk through downtown Lynn, I recently did to put things into perspective, things are pretty good here in Salem!!!

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William Legault

10:25 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012

The board that I sat on was organized specifically to deal with the move of the shelter from Crombie Street to it's current location. It s now defunct.

There is a Homeless Outreach Advisory Committee that has met twice this year. Most businesses would seem to be unaware of it's existence.

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